Dialogue Bridges the Muslim-Christian Gap
By Jonathan Hayden
American University
Washington, DC

Washington, DC: Ambassadors Akbar Ahmed and Doug Holladay, champions of the interfaith dialogue movement, spoke to a diverse and lively crowd on Mar 11 at American University. During the Keynote Luncheon of The Intercultural Management Institute’s conference on Enhancing Cross-Cultural Effectiveness, the audience was treated to speeches by the two ambassadors followed by an entertaining and thought provoking question and answer session moderated by Dr. Robert Pastor. Scholars such as Doug Johnston, business leaders, administrators, government employees and international organization executives attended the conference.


Dr.Akbar Ahmed (centre)addresses the meeting

Dr. Lois Goodman, Dean of the American University School of International Service, opened the luncheon with the introductions. Afterwards, Ahmed, a Muslim, and Holladay, a Christian, addressed the assembly with prepared remarks on the importance of having a dialogue between faiths. They gave examples of how men of faith have altered the course of history and explained how, with a true dialogue between men and women of different faiths, we can begin to understand each other build bridges and avoid conflict.
Dr. Ahmed, Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University, began by asking a question: Who is the best selling poet in the United States? The answer: Rumi, the 13th century Persian mystic. Rumi was also a Muslim and at a time when Muslim-American relations are arguably at their nadir, the significance is clear to Dr. Ahmed. Ahmed spoke of the poetry of Rumi and the themes of universal love and the bridge between civilizations that Rumi offers as an alternative to the dominant themes of the “clash of civilizations”. He also offered a Rumi poem about his admiration for Jesus, reminding all that the Muslim faith has great respect and admiration for Jesus.
Dr. Ahmed then addressed the need for dialogue, the theme of the luncheon. He started by citing a recent poll that found that 70-75% of Americans either knew nothing of Islam or were hostile to it. Why should the West try to understand Islam? Dr. Ahmed pointed out that there are 57 Islamic states in the world, one of which is currently nuclear, and 1.3 billion Muslims. In order to engage the Muslim world, the West must understand the Muslim World. “It is impossible to fight the war on terror without knowledge of Islam”, said Ahmed. He went on to note that “there is no more worthy exercise than dialogue. We cannot afford to not have dialogue.”
Dr. Ahmed closed by giving three steps to be taken to promote dialogue. First, we must begin the process of understanding each other. “Just as Americans should read about Islamic figures, Muslims should read about the Founding Fathers so that they can understand why Americans think like they do.” Secondly, he pointed out that we must have dialogues whenever and wherever we can. He spoke of the beginnings of the dialogue between himself and Ambassador Holladay and how they have rallied around their friendship. The dialogue now includes many influential members of both faiths. Lastly, he stressed the value of creating and building friendships. According to Ahmed, “Dialogue without friendship is only conversation, empty words.”
Next, Holladay, General Partner of Park Avenue Equity, spoke of the side of faith that is “powerful and transformative.” He cited William Wilberforce’s initiate in abolishing the slave trade in England under the Puritan idea of “giving all of this life to the purposes of God.” Holladay explained that he didn’t do it alone, that he had a band of friends that surrounded him. Wilberforce also had tenacity, a long-term view, something that Holladay says that we do not have in this day and age. Holladay described Wilberforce as a reconciler, “a man who brings people of different world views together to unite and accomplish goals”. Holladay was making the point that Wilberforce is a model for what must be done today.
Ambassador Holladay went on to discuss the friendship that has grown between he and Dr. Ahmed and the dialogue that has blossomed into what they hope will be a model for others to follow. The model that they seek is a group of people “living with differences and embracing each other”. Their personal dialogue has matured into a larger group of very influential people that “once touched, can make a difference.” In one of the most stimulating moments of the event, Holladay wondered aloud how their “small story fits in with God’s bigger story”. He concluded that he doesn’t know and that here is an excitement in that.
The question and answer session of the luncheon was jam packed with hard-hitting questions from Dr. Pastor and the well-educated audience. Most of the questions revolved around the issue of faith and its role in government and interfaith dialogue and how it can be a peacekeeping mechanism.
One of the toughest questions came from Dr. Pastor, former security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, when he cited example of the most violent and deadly conflicts in history having come from a clash within civilizations as opposed to a clash of civilizations. Both of the acclaimed speakers held that the global media has turned the world into one large civilization. Dr. Ahmed stated, “Muslims must see people like Doug (Holladay), a great Christian. Instead they are seeing other supposed ‘Christian Leaders’ who want to attack Islam. Media creates an illusion of clash and must promote dialogue among civilizations.” On this point, Holladay added, “We must create models of civility for people to see.”
One of the questions from the crowd had to do with the way that Americans are seen in the world in such a negative light. Holladay addressed this question by saying that America, since becoming the lone superpower, “has not learned to live with other people. We are not the source of all evil, but we must empower people. We must create a relationship of parity with the world. A lot of us are searching our souls for answers to this.”
Dr. Ahmed mentioned the great things that America is known for, Human rights and democracy, among others. “America must be true to themselves… and must export these things to the world because these are not just American ideas. The rest of the world embraces these.” He mentioned the revered Pakistani politician Muhammad Ali Jinnah, who, in the 1940’s, called for equal rights for all Pakistanis, without regard to their religion.
Ahmed added an exciting and hopeful side note. In President Bush’s inaugural address, he mentioned the Muslim holy book. This is the first time that this has happened. These small things that are done to embrace Muslims are being noticed in the Islamic world and are appreciated. “A new religion has joined the mosaic of culture and religion that make up the U.S.”, said Ahmed.
Dr. Pastor ended the luncheon by thanking the brilliant speakers who entertained all in attendance. The expectation of the luncheon was for all to leave enlightened. The reality is that they left engaged in a dialogue that is of critical importance.

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